where in the Constitution does it say the Federal government can force citizens into a retirement program or dictate wages?
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How on Earth are forcing me to pay Social Security and minimum wage constitutional?
May 13th, 2008 · 9 Comments
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1 How DARE You Disagree With Me! // May 13, 2008
hahahaha. ahhhhh slave labor.
2 Dialectic // May 13, 2008
I'm not sure it does say that.
Infinitely worse is that people paying into Social Security now won't benefit one damn bit from it, ever.
3 T-Bone // May 13, 2008
To answer your question;
No where in the constitution does it say anything about social security or minimum wages. Welcome to the world of socialism and socialist judges. America was built without social programs, and will fail because of them.
4 David H // May 13, 2008
It doesn't say they can't, so they can if they pass legislation. I know you'd like to open some sweat shops here. Sorry we can't accommodate you.
5 totalawarenessnow // May 13, 2008
If you don't like it move to Somalia where they don't have social security or min wage
America love it or leave it….
Freedom isn't free
6 D squared // May 13, 2008
Article I, section 8.
"To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof."
Same place it says the Federal government can make murder illegal (That's not in the Constitution, by the way…so does that make murder legal?)
7 John M // May 13, 2008
The commerce clause and the necessary and proper clause of the United States Constitution give the legislature virtually limitless authority to draft laws. These include creation of a national bank, the regulation of unfair labor practices, the restriction of certain drugs or weapons. The Constitution does not deal with any of these specific issues but the necessary and proper clause and the commerce clause gives Congress the right to regulate them as it sees fit.
Your view that individual business owners should have the right to contract as they choose with any employee they hire with regard to wages and hours worked was overruled. The old law was Lochner v. New York. Lochner was deflated by West Coast Hotel v. Parrish and all vestiges of Lochner were removed by Williamson v. Lee Optical.
8 Iakona // May 13, 2008
unfortunately i dont have an answer, ask the socialists to my left.
9 Cat // May 13, 2008
Great point. It doesn't. What is really funny is that the ones paying the most into Social Security(SS) are the ones who probally will not need SS benifits when they retire. The professionals, upper-middle class, and the upper class who have to pay into SS to support those who would need it. What the heck is wrong with that?(everything.)
Though minimum wage does have something to do with the standar of living. If you paid a man say: $2 an hour and he worked 80 hours 52 weeks a year, that would be around $8k a year. Can't really live on that, can you?
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